Talk:Conflicts of interest policy/2012 redraft

fine Victuallers (talk) 13:45, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

"Expenses will only be reimbursed if they ... are on the proper form ..." - It looks like I won't be getting any expenses then, because there's no way I'm using that form. Otherwise it all looks good to me. --RexxS (talk) 23:50, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

We have a number of forms that could be considered 'proper', and there may be future variants that are made available. As such, I've tweaked the wording to say "have been properly filed", which makes things a bit more flexible whilst following due process. Hope that helps. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:18, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Balancing opportunities between trustees and volunteers

One topic that is becoming increasingly frequent is opportunities for delivering paid training and contracting related to Wikipedia. Given that these opportunities often come through Wikimedia UK work or contacts, trustees will naturally end up in the front line for responding to these opportunities. We need to figure out a way of balancing these opportunities evenly between non-trustee and trustee volunteers, to make sure that there isn't a significant trustee benefit arising here, whilst not excluding trustees from having an equal opportunity for responding to these opportunities.

This may be more a case of process than policy, but I think that a high-level description of our approach would fit into this policy well. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

One way we are making sure that this is properly done is through the Training the Trainers programme. We are moving to the point where anyone doing training on our behalf has to have done the training on how to train. I foresee a world where there will be the following categories of training activity

• Where volunteers deliver the training and claim out of pocket expenses if needed.

• Where organisations offer us a fee for the training but volunteers decline to accept any payment but as above take out of pocket expenses if needed.

• Where organisations offer us a fee and volunteers decided to take a part of that payment as a fee for the training. We will have to work out what a fair rate would be.

Of course if any of the trainers are also trustees this has to be declared and handled very carefully. Jon Davies (WMUK) (talk) 11:04, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Restrictive practices

"where anyone doing training on our behalf has to have done the training on how to train" - What? So I'm a qualified teacher and I cannot now talk about Wikipedia in a lesson without sitting through someones powerpoint and getting WMUK to pay for me to be bored? This is crazy. Victuallers (talk) 13:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Overlap with Finance Policy

Parts of this draft - specifically the expenses section - overlap with our Finance Policy... for example, "Travel by train or aeroplane will be reimbursed for standard class only unless First Class is cheaper." conflicts with "First class fares may be reimbursed where the cost is less than standard class plus the reasonable benefits of first class [e.g. internet access and catering]". Some clarity on this would be appreciated! Richard Symonds (WMUK) (talk) 11:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Better idea is not to restate text particularly where it is obvious. For example restating the rules on the use of bicycles and that we do not authorise the use of personal jets doesnt need to be re-said here. It just creates a maintenance problem. Victuallers (talk) 13:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)