Water cooler

We need somewhere for random chatter, so here is somewhere! --Tango 22:52, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Transferring stuff from meta

Ok, I've started transferring stuff over from meta, but we probably want something a little more organised than the random copying and pasting I'm doing at the moment (I thought it important to get the key information copied over ASAP so we can actually start pointing people to this site). How do we want to do this? Proper importing? Starting from scratch? Make it up as we go along? --Tango 23:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I think people should import, and those who wish to do it should ask for sysop rights from a bureaucrat. GFDL and all that... Majorly 23:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Importing to start with, before starting to generate new content. I'm currently trying to figure out how to enable importing (it seems to be disabled at the moment...) Mike Peel 23:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Leave a message on m:SR/P asking someone to give you import rights on this wiki. Cbrown1023 talk 23:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

When I try, it says I need to be a sysop. Does being a sysop not help? We need to discuss user rights at some point, too... --Tango 23:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I have 'crat status here, as does cfp (and the other board members will have too once they sign in). Who gets to be a sysop needs to be discussed... But atm, I can't import anything. Mike Peel 23:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

By default, there are no import sources specified for sysops to import. To get around this, you will need to ask a steward on m:SR/P to give you import rights so that you can export the pages on Meta and import them by file upload here. This is a lot faster than opening up a bug and asking them to set the import sources. Cbrown1023 talk 23:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

User rights

No major urgency on this, but I thought I'd start this discussion. We need to decide how we are going to structure user rights on this site. We've already decided (I think) to use protection to handle official pages, so I suggest we request user groups of "Board member" and "Member" be created and restriction levels (ie. options in the list when protecting a page) created for them (having a "Member" group allows us to do online polls very easily - you just protect it to members only and suffrage sorts itself out). I suggest sysop and crat be kept as an independent hierarchy, since there is no need for the board to be the ones handling admin stuff here. --Tango 23:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, is all that necessary? Majorly 23:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Thing like Template:WikiUKDisclosure are legal requirements and it shouldn't be possible for any random vandal to fiddle with them. --Tango 23:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

We can just protect them then. It seems like a lot of bureaucracy to be honest. Sysopship for trusted users. Bureaucrat for board members. Nothing else is needed imo. Majorly 23:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps it's just my programmer mentality, but I like to keep separate things separate. Authority in the charity and ability to administrate the website seems like separate things to me. And I do think a Member group to facilitate polls would be very useful. --Tango 23:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Member group does sound like a good idea. Though there's a danger it might end up being over used (too many pages protected as members only). I'm happy to make anyone I trust a sysop, but I guess we should run things past the board first.--Cfp 23:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

The only pages I see any point restricting to members only are polls are other official uses of member powers. Other pages can be semiprotected (ie. restrict to autoconfirmed) if necessary. --Tango 00:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Categories

What is the point of Category:Wikimedia UK (which should contain the whole site) and Category:Templates (which should contain the whole Template namespace)? --Tango 11:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I created them so that things would be easier to find, without having to go through Special:Allpages. Not every page will end up in the Wikimedia UK category; it should end up more like meta:Category:Wikimedia UK once everything's been imported. Mike Peel 14:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)