Talk:Expense policy: Difference between revisions

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The document is full of rococo detail. It lacks the viewpoint of a policy level document, something simple along the lines that we meet HMRC requirements and Charities Commission guidelines and in addition all expenses must be <a paragraph in line with our values> followed by links to any absolutely necessary special detailed procedure and a default position that when in doubt we probably follow a similar pragmatic approach to the WMF's expenses process. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] 15:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
The document is full of rococo detail. It lacks the viewpoint of a policy level document, something simple along the lines that we meet HMRC requirements and Charities Commission guidelines and in addition all expenses must be <a paragraph in line with our values> followed by links to any absolutely necessary special detailed procedure and a default position that when in doubt we probably follow a similar pragmatic approach to the WMF's expenses process. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] 15:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
:I disagree, I think this has the right level of detail. It is not just a statement of principles, but a working policy. It is good to have things like this down in writing because that way everyone knows where they stand and it's very clear if someone is misappropriating funds by abusing the expenses system (we don't want to end up with our own expenses scandal like the MPs, with people saying "but it wasn't against the rules"). --[[User:Tango|Tango]] 21:08, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Seems ok to me.

The one question not addressed is telephone and internet access expenses.

  • Will WMUK provide mobile phones for staff?
  • Laptops?
  • Hot spot subscriptions?
  • What about temporary staff?
  • Unpaid interns?
  • Volunteers?

--Filceolaire 22:24, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

It is mentioned under Meals & Incidental Expenses. Where office equipment is supplied as part of a package for staff, this is covered by the terms of employment rather than the expenses policy. Other situations (such as reimbursing volunteers for their mobile internet costs) would require advance agreement or be part of planned event costs. Situations such as unpaid interns we have no current experience of, so it seems premature to write the policy for those areas. -- 23:07, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

procedure vs policy

The document is full of rococo detail. It lacks the viewpoint of a policy level document, something simple along the lines that we meet HMRC requirements and Charities Commission guidelines and in addition all expenses must be <a paragraph in line with our values> followed by links to any absolutely necessary special detailed procedure and a default position that when in doubt we probably follow a similar pragmatic approach to the WMF's expenses process. -- 15:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, I think this has the right level of detail. It is not just a statement of principles, but a working policy. It is good to have things like this down in writing because that way everyone knows where they stand and it's very clear if someone is misappropriating funds by abusing the expenses system (we don't want to end up with our own expenses scandal like the MPs, with people saying "but it wasn't against the rules"). --Tango 21:08, 18 October 2011 (UTC)