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| Excellents job getting this started. This looks like an excellent start and will hopefully involve as many people as possible. I've got some general comments to make with how the chapter should operate, and I'd like to highlight what I perceive as failing from the first attempt.
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| I firstly get the impression that people wishing to become members were messed around some what. [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2008-August/001998.html A post from the mailing list] shows people had applied for guarantor membership yet heard little from it. For this to be a success, we need the people with board positions to take into consideration the thoughts and suggestions by the volunteers wishing to help. I can't believe that membership requests from some excellent contributors went unanswered. That's not only rude, but it makes people less willing to contribute to the chapter.
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| In line with this, [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2008-August/001966.html comments like this] from board members should be completely discouraged in any future WMUK. Wacky suggestions of stalking from people that are supposed to be leading the project forward is quite astonishing really. I'd like to see the new board take a more proactive effort at engaging members and associates of the chapter rather than dismissing their qestions as trolling.
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| We need to make a definite focus. One of the major problems last time round was that the chapter was blinkered in the respect that it put all its energy into getting charity status. Start small, grow big. We should move at the pace that we are working at, not be forced into starting higher on the hierachy with not enough interest to back that up. As we grow in member number, we can then move toward charity status, but we need to get fully organised before attempting anything too big.
| | Hey folks, the "Join Wikimedia UK" link on the Main Page is a 404. Looks like it ought to be updated to point to [[Membership]] when someone gets a moment :) |
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| Lastly, right from the start we should start looking for places we can promote the WMF. In line with what I said previously, start with small conferences/trade fairs and we can move up from there. We don't need to be getting huge donations from the start, just simply putting our names around.
| | All the best, [[User:Naypta|Naypta]] ([[User talk:Naypta|talk]]) 23:26, 29 May 2020 (BST) |
| | | :{{reply|Naypta}} Thanks for spotting that, I've updated the link so it should now work. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 11:51, 16 June 2020 (BST) |
| There are other things I've got to say, but that'll do for now. [[User:Ryan Postlethwaite|'''<font color="#000088">Ry<font color="#220066">an<font color="#550044"> P<font color="#770022">os<font color="#aa0000">tl</font>et</font>hw</font>ai</font>te</font>''']] 22:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ==message for wikiprojects==
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| Working draft of message for wikiprojects:
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| As a UK-oriented WikiProject, you might be interested in [[m:Wikimedia UK v2.0|the formation of a new Wikimedia UK chapter]], to replace the now-defunct previous attempt. At this point we are looking for people generally interested, potential members, candidates for the board and people with experence with charities.<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
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| [[User:Geni|Geni]] 22:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC) | |
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| ==election dates==
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| Currently looking at sept 29th with last call for candiates sept 27th.[[User:Geni|Geni]] 23:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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| :I'd make that end 26th (i.e. Friday) if nothing more than make it a round end of week date. [[User:KTC|KTC]] 23:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Proposed Name==
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| "Wiki Information Network" appears to have a fair degree of support. Will trade under wikimedia UK.[[User:Geni|Geni]] 01:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ===Open Knowledge===
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| I suggest something very neutral like ‘Society/Institute for Open Knowledge’ (avoiding confusion with v1.0, namely ‘Wiki Educational Resources Ltd’), then trade under ‘Wikimedia UK’ with licence from the Wikimedia Foundation. Try [http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/ Companies House’s WebCHeck]. – [[User:Kaihsu|Kaihsu]] 12:11, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ==milestones==
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| [[Wikimedia UK v2.0/Timeline]]
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| :Should there not be an early milestone (before ''draft Memorandum'') to define ''objectives'' and the ''public benefit'' in a way compatible with the Charity Commission rules? (see [http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/publicbenefit/publicbenefit.asp], [http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/publicbenefit/pbsummary.asp] and [http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/spr/corcom1.asp]) Also there is no milestone to register the company with the Charity Commission ([http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registration/default.asp] and [http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/publications/cc21.asp]), but perhaps that is what is meant by ''Contact HMRC regarding tax-exempt status''? It seems to me essential to create the company with memorandum and articles of association that will be accepted by the Charity Commission without modification. NB The Charity Commission has ''Model Memorandum and Articles of Association''[http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registration/mgds.asp] (see also [http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/publications/cc22.asp]) that would probably be ideal for the company, and save work. [[User:Rwendland|Rwendland]] 12:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| :we can only become a registered charity once we have an income of over £5,000 - since we don't know when that will be, it's not on the timeline. until then, we can become a tax-exempt organisation by registering with HMRC. (OTOH, i agree we should consider future registration as a charity now, rather than later.) [[User:Kate|Kate]] 12:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ::Ah. Hadn't noticed the £5,000 rule, sorry. Might still be worth using the Charity Commission ''Model Memorandum and Articles of Association'' etc so it would be ready for simple registration when/if income got there. I did wonder if incorporating was a good idea with a low income - do you have an estimate for annual accounts/accountancy costs? I'm a director of a small consultancy co, and I'd estimate the accountant annual accounts & companies house costs of running a small commercial co at £500 to £1000/year. It is a shame the new Charitable Incorporated Organisation is not yet available. [[User:Rwendland|Rwendland]] 14:53, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ==talkpage message==
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| As a UK based editor you might be interested in [[m:Wikimedia UK v2.0|the formation of a new Wikimedia UK chapter]], to replace the now-defunct previous attempt. At this point we are looking for people generally interested, potential members, candidates for the board and people with experence with charities.<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
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| ==userpage sign==
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| At this point needs to be big bigger than a userbox.[[User:Geni|Geni]] 03:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| == Scope ==
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| from IRC:
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| * England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland (probably)
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| * Isle of Man, Channel Islands - maybe?
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| ==Projects to inform at village pumps and the like==
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| Please strikethough once done
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| **wikipedia
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| *simple
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| *<s>Cy</s>
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| *Sco
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| *Sco (Irish)
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| **Wiktionary
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| **Commons
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| ==other informing people stuff==
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| I posted a quick notice at [[w:en:Wikipedia talk:UK Wikipedians' notice board#Wikimedia UK v2.0]] [[User:the wub|the wub]] [[User_talk:The wub|<font color="green">"?!"</font>]] 16:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Village pump notice==
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| A plan is in the works to found a new UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation and we are ready to begin gathering support from the community. If you are interesting in being part of a new UK chapter either as a member or a board member or just want to register a general interest, please head over to [[m:Wikimedia UK v2.0]] and let us know and help put some finishing touches to the plans. An election will shortly be held for the initial board who will oversee the process of founding the company and accepting application to membership. They will then call an AGM to formally elect a new board to take the chapter forward to begin fundraising and supporting the Wikimedia community in the UK in whatever ways we can.
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