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{{ping|Mccapra}} Could the Secretary or another trustee please point out where in past minutes the board took this decision and directed the CE to change the way expenses were to be reported this year compared to past years?
{{ping|Mccapra}} Could the Secretary or another trustee please point out where in past minutes the board took this decision and directed the CE to change the way expenses were to be reported this year compared to past years?
:There is no such decision, and the page you link to does not support your statement - made above - that there has been one. --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 11:19, 4 June 2014 (BST)
:There is no such decision, and the page you link to does not support your statement - made above - that there has been one. --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 11:19, 4 June 2014 (BST)
::This is odd. Your statement does not appear to match ''"I have to wait for the full board to give their views and make a decision before I can change the page"'' - which would indicate that Operations are under the impression that it is the board of trustees that has directed the CE to change the way this report was done in past years to its current state, and therefore it takes the board of trustees to change that decision. If no such decision was ever made, and the CE has not made any change to process, why is the 2014 report today lacking the detail that past years included? --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 12:08, 4 June 2014 (BST)


{{ping|MichaelMaggs}} Could the Chair please add this as an item in the agenda for this meeting per the statement ''"The board are going to discuss an appropriate level of transparency at the board meeting this Saturday"'' [https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Expenses_2014-2015&diff=57421&oldid=57412|diff]? At the time of writing I can find no item in the agenda that states this will be discussed or subject to a vote of the trustees.
{{ping|MichaelMaggs}} Could the Chair please add this as an item in the agenda for this meeting per the statement ''"The board are going to discuss an appropriate level of transparency at the board meeting this Saturday"'' [https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Expenses_2014-2015&diff=57421&oldid=57412|diff]? At the time of writing I can find no item in the agenda that states this will be discussed or subject to a vote of the trustees.
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Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:51, 4 June 2014 (BST)
Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:51, 4 June 2014 (BST)
:It's in the [[Reports 7Jun14/Governance committee report#Publication_of_Expenses|Govcom report]]. --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 11:19, 4 June 2014 (BST)
:It's in the [[Reports 7Jun14/Governance committee report#Publication_of_Expenses|Govcom report]]. --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 11:19, 4 June 2014 (BST)
::Thanks. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 12:08, 4 June 2014 (BST)

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Reporting the total costs of supporting Wikimedia Conference 2014

I would like to ensure the "non-successful" reporting of these costs is reviewed by the board of trustees, and a response considered by the treasurer if no report is to be made. Refer to Engine_room#Trustee_Expenses. It is a puzzle how a commitment by Wikimedia UK to reduce costs of this type can be claimed if the costs are to never be reported in a meaningful or transparent way. -- (talk) 07:38, 1 June 2014 (BST)

Reporting Chief Executive and Trustee expenses

According to Talk:Expenses 2014-2015, the board of trustees has previously decided to suppress any detail of trustee or CE expenses from public view, instead providing a (pointless) single figure per person for members of the charity to view. Having been a trustee at the time when the Finance Policy was originally written and agreed, this goes against the intention of that policy, and against the intent or spirit of value 4 (transparency) of the mission statement.

@Mccapra: Could the Secretary or another trustee please point out where in past minutes the board took this decision and directed the CE to change the way expenses were to be reported this year compared to past years?

There is no such decision, and the page you link to does not support your statement - made above - that there has been one. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:19, 4 June 2014 (BST)
This is odd. Your statement does not appear to match "I have to wait for the full board to give their views and make a decision before I can change the page" - which would indicate that Operations are under the impression that it is the board of trustees that has directed the CE to change the way this report was done in past years to its current state, and therefore it takes the board of trustees to change that decision. If no such decision was ever made, and the CE has not made any change to process, why is the 2014 report today lacking the detail that past years included? -- (talk) 12:08, 4 June 2014 (BST)

@MichaelMaggs: Could the Chair please add this as an item in the agenda for this meeting per the statement "The board are going to discuss an appropriate level of transparency at the board meeting this Saturday" [1]? At the time of writing I can find no item in the agenda that states this will be discussed or subject to a vote of the trustees.

Thanks -- (talk) 10:51, 4 June 2014 (BST)

It's in the Govcom report. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:19, 4 June 2014 (BST)
Thanks. -- (talk) 12:08, 4 June 2014 (BST)