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== Date of 2016 AGM ==
==Suggestions of potential events to attend==


Those who follow such things might like to note that the next AGM is expected to be be held on '''9 July 2016''', in London. --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 13:36, 17 November 2015 (GMT)
[[Project grants/Photographs covering African cultural events in London]] asks for suggestions of potential events to attend. My suggestion would be classic car rallies. A lot of wikipedia's car photos are taken of parked cars which tends to result in wide angle shots with messy backgrounds which tend not to look that great. Rallies where cars are driven allow you to get shots at longer focal lengths with cleaner backgrounds. A specific recommendation would be Great Dorset Steam Fair. As well as steam they have a lot of cars and bikes. I went there last year and was able to get stuff [[:commons:Category:Great Dorset Steam Fair (2016)|like this]]


This date has now been confirmed. --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 19:06, 16 December 2015 (GMT)
== Confirmation emails not arriving ==
*It is a shame that this will be the third year in a row the AGM has been held in London. This is not the best way to encourage participation from and demonstrate a commitment to the whole of the UK - and I speak here as a London-based member. [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 00:52, 20 December 2015 (GMT)


==Black Cultural Archives==
[[Special:ConfirmEmail]] does not seem to be working for me. How long is the lag, typically? Please [[w:WP:NOTIFY|notify]] me in your reply. Thanks! [[User:Zazpot|Zazpot]] ([[User talk:Zazpot|talk]]) 20:18, 28 June 2017 (BST)
I am discussing a possible editathon with [http://bcaheritage.org.uk/ Black Cultural Archives] in the new year. Edward Hands has promised to train and I have recruited some other Wikipedians to attend. It would be good to have the support of WMUK in the venture. Once I have agreed the date with them, is there anything I need to do to make it an "official" WMUK event? [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 11:24, 30 November 2015 (GMT)
:Yes, I would be happy to be a trainer for such an event, presumably at their HQ in Brixton, London. [[User:Edwardx|Edwardx]] ([[User talk:Edwardx|talk]]) 11:39, 30 November 2015 (GMT)
::{{ping|Philafrenzy}} Once a date has been settled, it can be added to the [[events]] page. If you can estimate how many attendees there will be, we can send [[:File:New Editing WP booklet v4.pdf|booklets]] to help people learn editing skills and [[merchandise]]. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 13:20, 4 December 2015 (GMT)
:::Thanks, I will know more in the next couple of weeks. It will probably be in Feb. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 20:34, 4 December 2015 (GMT)
::Count me in too! [[User:Leutha|Leutha]] ([[User talk:Leutha|talk]]) 09:32, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
:::Sure! [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 15:23, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
::This is now scheduled with them for Sat 13 Feb 2016, 10-4. I will be creating a page somewhere detailing it shortly. They are going to promote it through social media etc. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 15:45, 15 December 2015 (GMT)
:Draft page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetups/UK/Black_Cultural_Archives [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 13:29, 22 December 2015 (GMT)


== Error trying to update address ==
:Hi {{ping|Zazpot}}, thanks for letting us know. I've [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org.uk/show_bug.cgi?id=433 asked our developers to take a look]. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 10:27, 29 June 2017 (BST)
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::{{ping|Richard Nevell (WMUK)}} thanks for this. Confirmation email still not received. Other emails to the same address seems to be reaching me fine. [[User:Zazpot|Zazpot]] ([[User talk:Zazpot|talk]]) 11:32, 29 June 2017 (BST)
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:::It hasn't ended up in spam by any chance? It sounds likely that something's broken. Special:PasswordReset is working so the wiki is able to send out some emails, so it might just be an issue with Special:ConfirmEmail. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 12:14, 29 June 2017 (BST)
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::::{{ping|Richard Nevell (WMUK)}} no, sadly not. I checked the spam folder before posting here (and have checked it again just now). Pressed the "Mail a confirmation code" button again today, just in case it had started working again, but still no joy. Will try signing up to the Bugzilla instance, so that I can follow up there. [[User:Zazpot|Zazpot]] ([[User talk:Zazpot|talk]]) 21:48, 4 July 2017 (BST)


I'm trying to update the address on my membership record by following the link in the most recent saved email I have (from when my membership was due for renewal in October). I am treated only to the generic make a donation page with the error "You do not have permission to edit this contact record. Contact the site administrator if you need assistance." [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 16:11, 4 December 2015 (GMT)
== Meta: Spam ==


:Hi Thryduulf, I have replied by email. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 16:38, 4 December 2015 (GMT)
Hi all, heck of a [[:Category:Speedy deletions|lot of spam]] which could do with deleting. Whilst I'm here, could someone rename my account to [[User:There'sNoTime]]? [[User:Samtar|Samtar]] ([[User talk:Samtar|talk]]) 14:36, 4 December 2017 (GMT)
:Oh, and an edit filter would be good eh? [[User:Samtar|Samtar]] ([[User talk:Samtar|talk]]) 14:37, 4 December 2017 (GMT)
::I've renamed your account as requested, and am taking a look at some of the spam. An edit filter would definitely be worthwhile, but I don't know how to set one up. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 17:05, 4 December 2017 (GMT)
:::{{ping|Richard Nevell (WMUK)}} I'm +sysop/EFM on enwp, happy to set something up if you'd like? [[User:There'sNoTime|There'sNoTime]] ([[User talk:There'sNoTime|talk]]) 17:52, 4 December 2017 (GMT)
::::{{ping|There'sNoTime}} Yes please, do you need admin access here to set it up? [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 14:20, 5 December 2017 (GMT)
:::::{{ping|Richard Nevell (WMUK)}} I will do, if that's alright?  -- [[User:There'sNoTime|There'sNoTime]] <sup>([[User talk:There'sNoTime|to explain]])</sup> 14:22, 5 December 2017 (GMT)
::::::{{ping|There'sNoTime}} Absolutely, you're now an admin. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 10:44, 12 December 2017 (GMT)
:::::::Cheers, just testing something now  -- [[User:There'sNoTime|There'sNoTime]] <sup>([[User talk:There'sNoTime|to explain]])</sup> 11:09, 12 December 2017 (GMT)


==Thank function==
== Staff group photo ==
Why doesn't the "thank" function work on this Wiki? We are thanking each other like maniacs on Wikipedia. Or is it just me? I have a captcha on my contributions here, perhaps that interferes.  Also, the red notification seems to be permanently on despite having clicked on the linked edit at the top. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 15:23, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
:captcha seems to have disappeared for that edit. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 15:24, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
::Hi [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]], it's not just you the thank function has been broken for a while. It does feel a bit strange not having it working here after using it regularly on Wikipedia. I've nudged our developers to take a look and see what the issue is. Thanks for flagging it, the issue had fallen off the radar recently.
::As for the red notifications, would you be able to write step-by-step what you do and how it's not working so I can pass it on? [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 16:16, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
:::What I see next to my name at top right is a red "3" indicating I have three notifications dating back to 29 May. But that never updates, nor is it possible to make it go away. Do others see the same? --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 16:28, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
::Yes, I now have 2 and neither will disappear no matter where I click. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 17:27, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
:::If you click on the red number and then 'all notifications' at the foot of the drop-down type box does that change anything? [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 17:34, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
::Yes, that works thanks. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 17:58, 9 December 2015 (GMT)
:::It's a roundabout way of sorting it, so I've asked our developers to take a look. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 15:28, 10 December 2015 (GMT)
I can get rid of the red notification as you suggest, but I still can't use the thank function for sending thanks. I always get the message "''Thank action failed. Please try again''".--[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 19:04, 16 December 2015 (GMT)
:Same problem here, alas. [[User:Edwardx|Edwardx]] ([[User talk:Edwardx|talk]]) 11:44, 20 December 2015 (GMT)


{{ping|Philafrenzy}} {{ping|MichaelMaggs}} The wiki has been updated with a new version of MediaWiki and the thank function is now working again. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 11:24, 20 January 2016 (GMT)
I've just spotted that the staff group photo is rather out of date - it still features Richard S who hasn't been staff for a couple of years now for example. I suggest someone puts this in the diary for a day when you have a full house in the office and it isn't snowing! [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 17:29, 2 March 2018 (GMT)
:Agreed. 2015 is a long time ago and there have been several staff changes since then.  [[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 21:48, 8 July 2018 (BST)
::I will try to take one at the Christmas lunch. It's not been easy to get everyone in the same place at the same time! [[User:John Lubbock (WMUK)|John Lubbock (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:John Lubbock (WMUK)|talk]]) 14:44, 5 December 2018 (GMT)


== Equipment loan - no contact point given ==
== Wikimedia VLE ==


At [[w:Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Hitchin 1]] there is discussion about borrowing a WMUK table-top banner. I have pointed them at the [[volunteer equipment]] page on this wiki, but that page is distinctly lacking in any specified contact method for people actually wanting to arrange to borrow any of the equipment (e.g. which email address or page on this wiki to use). I've guessed volunteering@ or a message on the water cooler, but it would be good if someone (Richard N or Karla perhaps?) could reach out to them on that page - especially if my guess is wrong. [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 23:26, 5 January 2016 (GMT)
Is the [http://moodle.wikimedia.org.uk/ Wikimedia VLE] dead?  If so, [https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Virtual_Learning_Environment information about it] should be updated.


:I've [https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Equipment_Loan_Procedure&diff=68944&oldid=62489 made the contact details more prominent], which will hopefully help in future. They were buried a bit too low on the page. Rob has emailed volunteering@ and I'll reply to him now. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 13:15, 7 January 2016 (GMT)
==Recent changes==
::Thanks Richard. I looked hard and didn't spot the contact point on that page, hopefully it will be harder to miss now! [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 02:09, 9 January 2016 (GMT)
Is the wiki going to be updated with the new recent changes interface? [[User:Leutha|Leutha]] ([[User talk:Leutha|talk]]) 11:03, 29 November 2018 (GMT)
::Hi [[User:Leutha|Leutha]], we would love to update lots of things on the wiki. I hope that once we sort out other things with the site we can get around to this, but we probably need assistance fom people who are expert at MediaWiki. [[User:John Lubbock (WMUK)|John Lubbock (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:John Lubbock (WMUK)|talk]]) 12:31, 2 April 2019 (BST)


==Affiliate-selected WMF board posts==
== Watchlist broken ==
One  of our privileges as a Wikimedia chapter is to vote in the chapter/affiliate election for the so-called "affiliate-selected WMF board posts". Candidate nominations closed this week, and the board now needs to decide which candidate or candidates we wish as a chapter to support.  Members  or volunteers who have views on this are welcome to provide input now, either here or by email to any board member. 


You may like to have a look at the current candidates, here
Nothing is showing on my watchlist. In the box, there is the text:
:Below are the last '''0''' changes in the last '''720''' hours, as of 30 November 2018, 12:26.
Under the box, it says
:No changes during the given period match these criteria.
At [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist|Preferences]], I have the following relevant settings:
*Days to show in watchlist: 30
*Maximum number of changes to show in watchlist: 250
*{{tick|12}} Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent
*{{cross|12}} Hide minor edits from the watchlist
*{{cross|12}} Hide bot edits from the watchlist
*{{cross|12}} Hide my edits from the watchlist
*{{cross|12}} Hide edits by anonymous users from the watchlist
*{{cross|12}} Hide edits by logged in users from the watchlist
One of my watched pages is [[Events]], which normally attracts at least one edit each week. But not even the last edit (which was at 12:23, 22 November 2018) is showing. Has there been a MediaWiki config change that would affect this? --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]; [[:wikipedia:User:Redrose64|at English Wikipedia]]) 12:28, 30 November 2018 (GMT)
:Supplemental: I also have the setting
::{{tick|12}} Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist
:and I made sure that the "Watch this page" checkbox was ticked before I saved; but despite both of those, this page (Engine room) was ''not'' added to [[Special:EditWatchlist]] after I saved the above post. Nor was [[Water cooler]] added after I made [[Special:Diff/80704|this edit]]. This suggests that there seems to be a wider problem. The "watch" star works, but it's an extra step that I don't need to make on other wikis. --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]; [[:wikipedia:User:Redrose64|at English Wikipedia]]) 12:44, 30 November 2018 (GMT)
:I think this relates to the Recent Changes not working, which led to my query aboce. [[User:Leutha|Leutha]] ([[User talk:Leutha|talk]]) 12:48, 30 November 2018 (GMT)
:I'm seeing exactly the same issue with both watchlists and recent changes. I'll ping the mailing list as that gets a bit more traffic these days. [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 12:51, 30 November 2018 (GMT)
::Hi Chris, I'll try to forward this issue on, but it is possible that it is part of the same problem we are having with a lot of our sites at the moment. I'll try to keep you informed when i hear what the problem is.[[User:John Lubbock (WMUK)|John Lubbock (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:John Lubbock (WMUK)|talk]]) 16:14, 30 November 2018 (GMT)


* [[:meta:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations]]
Any progress to report on this? [[User:TheOverflow|TheOverflow]] ([[User talk:TheOverflow|talk]]) 06:21, 22 July 2019 (BST)
:I thought I would check recent changes by adding this edit . . . [[User:Leutha|Leutha]] ([[User talk:Leutha|talk]]) 07:34, 19 October 2019 (BST)
::. . .  and then seeing if the edit comes up – which it does not, so I think we are left with the old adage of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Soldier_%C5%A0vejk Good Editor Schweik]] "beg to report there is noting to report". [[User:Leutha|Leutha]] ([[User talk:Leutha|talk]]) 07:47, 19 October 2019 (BST)
:::That this has been outstanding for more than a year doesn't reflect well on the charity: most people would expect Wikimedia UK to be able to make its own wiki work... but I suppose that's not a priority any more. [[User:TheOverflow|TheOverflow]] ([[User talk:TheOverflow|talk]]) 09:05, 29 December 2019 (GMT)


and their responses to questions from the community:
== Recent changes to MediaWiki namespace files ==


*[[:meta:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Questions]]
Hi all - just a courtesy message letting you know I've made some changes to a couple of MediaWiki namespace files (namely [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]). These [[Special:Diff/82763|changes]] ''affect all users'', and were implemented solely due to function depreciation. Please let me know (preferably on [[:en:User talk:TheresNoTime|my English Wikipedia talk page]]) if there are any issues ~[[User:There'sNoTime|TNT]] (she/her • [[User talk:There'sNoTime|talk]]) 14:58, 5 October 2021 (BST)


[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 10:20, 11 March 2016 (GMT)
== Installed versions of MediaWiki and PHP are end-of-life ==


== Impact report  ==
The currently installed version of MediaWiki ([[:mw:MediaWiki 1.31|1.31]]) went [[:en:End-of-life_product#Computing|EOL]] on the 30th September 2021 - we should urgently upgrade to the latest LTS version ([[:mw:MediaWiki 1.35|1.35]]), and ideally to the latest stable version ([[:mw:MediaWiki 1.36|1.36]]).


The impact report for our activities between 1 February 2015 and 31 January 2016 is now on meta-wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2014-2015_round1/Wikimedia_UK/Impact_report_form
We will ''also'' need to upgrade to [[:mw:Compatibility#PHP|PHP]] version 7.3.19 or higher, as our currently installed version ([[Special:Version#sv-software|7.2.30]]) is not supported (and is also EOL).


[[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 11:16, 8 April 2016 (BST)
Have we previously reached out to the Wikimedia Foundation, as I am certain they would happily host this MediaWiki installation? ~[[User:TheresNoTime|TheresNoTime]] <sup>([[User talk:TheresNoTime|to explain!]])</sup> 14:40, 1 November 2021 (GMT)


== Notice of 2016 AGM ==
== Spam ==


The formal notice of [[2016 AGM|this year's AGM]] went out to members on Thursday 16th June. If you haven't spotted it in your inbox yet, please check your spam folder. If you're not sure whether you are a member and should have received an email, please contact me at richard.nevell{{@}}wikimedia.org.uk [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 16:45, 20 June 2016 (BST)
Hi, yesterday I stumbled upon a site (off-wiki) that had a spam link pointing to a page of this wiki. Having had a closer look I fell off my chair and added wikimedia.org.uk to my [[commons:User:Achim55/Wikis that are abused by spammers|list of spam servers]] as it is highly contaminated. The account creating rate by spambots has increased here to about 1000 per day. The rate of spam page creations (or edits) is the same. I happen to be the one who is holding the high score of blocks on the Commons and thought about offering some help cleaning up this crap but it's impossible. Deleting or at least tagging tens of thousands of pages and accounts while continuously new ones are created is a joke. One could seriously consider to shut down this wiki. If not, following had to be done ASAP
 
# Restrict the account generation either by adding a captcha on creation or even by using a closed user group (acc creation disabled by default)
== Newsletter - don't forget the text only version ==
# Get the SBLs running. As I just checked on my tp neither the local nor the global SBL are in effect. And I didn't find a SBL log.
 
# A publicly accessible wiki like this one should not be run without any abuse filter, there seems to be no [[Special:AbuseLog]].
I received my copy of the latest newsletter by email, thank you. However the text only version (which is what I see) leaves a little to be desired...
Pinging [[User:TheresNoTime|Sam]], [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard]] and [[User:Mike Peel|Mike]]. Regards, [[User:Achim55|Achim55]] ([[User talk:Achim55|talk]]) 11:59, 12 August 2022 (BST)
 
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It might be that I'm the only one reading the text only version, in which case this isn't disastrous, but I think it's also the version used by at least some screen readers. [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 13:15, 6 July 2016 (BST)
 
== New volunteer equipment ==
 
WMUK is currently (July 2016) looking for input on what additional volunteer photography and AV equipment it should purchase. For details and to share your ideas see [[Talk:Equipment Loan Procedure#New Equipment?]]. [[user:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] (talk: [[user talk:Thryduulf|local]] | [[w:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wp]] | [[wikt:user talk:Thryduulf|en.wikt]]) 11:44, 22 July 2016 (BST)
 
== Desysop request ==
 
Since I'm no longer active on this wiki, could a person with the bureaucrat flag kindly remove my sysop flag. Many thanks in advance. [[User:CT Cooper|CT Cooper]]<small><span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span>&#32;[[User talk:CT Cooper|talk]]</small> 15:48, 16 August 2016 (BST)
 
:Hi [[User:CT Cooper|CT Cooper]], I've gone ahead and removed the sysop flag. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 10:42, 17 August 2016 (BST)
 
==Suggestions of potential events to attend==
 
[[Project grants/Photographs covering African cultural events in London]] asks for suggestions of potential events to attend. My suggestion would be classic car rallies. A lot of wikipedia's car photos are taken of parked cars which tends to result in wide angle shots with messy backgrounds which tend not to look that great. Rallies where cars are driven allow you to get shots at longer focal lengths with cleaner backgrounds. A specific recommendation would be Great Dorset Steam Fair. As well as steam they have a lot of cars and bikes. I went there last year and was able to get stuff [[:commons:Category:Great Dorset Steam Fair (2016)|like this]]
 
== Confirmation emails not arriving ==
 
[[Special:ConfirmEmail]] does not seem to be working for me. How long is the lag, typically? Please [[w:WP:NOTIFY|notify]] me in your reply. Thanks! [[User:Zazpot|Zazpot]] ([[User talk:Zazpot|talk]]) 20:18, 28 June 2017 (BST)
 
:Hi {{ping|Zazpot}}, thanks for letting us know. I've [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org.uk/show_bug.cgi?id=433 asked our developers to take a look]. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 10:27, 29 June 2017 (BST)
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::{{ping|Richard Nevell (WMUK)}} thanks for this. Confirmation email still not received. Other emails to the same address seems to be reaching me fine. [[User:Zazpot|Zazpot]] ([[User talk:Zazpot|talk]]) 11:32, 29 June 2017 (BST)
::
:::It hasn't ended up in spam by any chance? It sounds likely that something's broken. Special:PasswordReset is working so the wiki is able to send out some emails, so it might just be an issue with Special:ConfirmEmail. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 12:14, 29 June 2017 (BST)
:::
::::{{ping|Richard Nevell (WMUK)}} no, sadly not. I checked the spam folder before posting here (and have checked it again just now). Pressed the "Mail a confirmation code" button again today, just in case it had started working again, but still no joy. Will try signing up to the Bugzilla instance, so that I can follow up there. [[User:Zazpot|Zazpot]] ([[User talk:Zazpot|talk]]) 21:48, 4 July 2017 (BST)

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Suggestions of potential events to attend

Project grants/Photographs covering African cultural events in London asks for suggestions of potential events to attend. My suggestion would be classic car rallies. A lot of wikipedia's car photos are taken of parked cars which tends to result in wide angle shots with messy backgrounds which tend not to look that great. Rallies where cars are driven allow you to get shots at longer focal lengths with cleaner backgrounds. A specific recommendation would be Great Dorset Steam Fair. As well as steam they have a lot of cars and bikes. I went there last year and was able to get stuff like this

Confirmation emails not arriving

Special:ConfirmEmail does not seem to be working for me. How long is the lag, typically? Please notify me in your reply. Thanks! Zazpot (talk) 20:18, 28 June 2017 (BST)

Hi @Zazpot:, thanks for letting us know. I've asked our developers to take a look. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 10:27, 29 June 2017 (BST)
@Richard Nevell (WMUK): thanks for this. Confirmation email still not received. Other emails to the same address seems to be reaching me fine. Zazpot (talk) 11:32, 29 June 2017 (BST)
It hasn't ended up in spam by any chance? It sounds likely that something's broken. Special:PasswordReset is working so the wiki is able to send out some emails, so it might just be an issue with Special:ConfirmEmail. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 12:14, 29 June 2017 (BST)
@Richard Nevell (WMUK): no, sadly not. I checked the spam folder before posting here (and have checked it again just now). Pressed the "Mail a confirmation code" button again today, just in case it had started working again, but still no joy. Will try signing up to the Bugzilla instance, so that I can follow up there. Zazpot (talk) 21:48, 4 July 2017 (BST)

Meta: Spam

Hi all, heck of a lot of spam which could do with deleting. Whilst I'm here, could someone rename my account to User:There'sNoTime? Samtar (talk) 14:36, 4 December 2017 (GMT)

Oh, and an edit filter would be good eh? Samtar (talk) 14:37, 4 December 2017 (GMT)
I've renamed your account as requested, and am taking a look at some of the spam. An edit filter would definitely be worthwhile, but I don't know how to set one up. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 17:05, 4 December 2017 (GMT)
@Richard Nevell (WMUK): I'm +sysop/EFM on enwp, happy to set something up if you'd like? There'sNoTime (talk) 17:52, 4 December 2017 (GMT)
@There'sNoTime: Yes please, do you need admin access here to set it up? Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 14:20, 5 December 2017 (GMT)
@Richard Nevell (WMUK): I will do, if that's alright? -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 14:22, 5 December 2017 (GMT)
@There'sNoTime: Absolutely, you're now an admin. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 10:44, 12 December 2017 (GMT)
Cheers, just testing something now -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 11:09, 12 December 2017 (GMT)

Staff group photo

I've just spotted that the staff group photo is rather out of date - it still features Richard S who hasn't been staff for a couple of years now for example. I suggest someone puts this in the diary for a day when you have a full house in the office and it isn't snowing! Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 17:29, 2 March 2018 (GMT)

Agreed. 2015 is a long time ago and there have been several staff changes since then. MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:48, 8 July 2018 (BST)
I will try to take one at the Christmas lunch. It's not been easy to get everyone in the same place at the same time! John Lubbock (WMUK) (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2018 (GMT)

Wikimedia VLE

Is the Wikimedia VLE dead? If so, information about it should be updated.

Recent changes

Is the wiki going to be updated with the new recent changes interface? Leutha (talk) 11:03, 29 November 2018 (GMT)

Hi Leutha, we would love to update lots of things on the wiki. I hope that once we sort out other things with the site we can get around to this, but we probably need assistance fom people who are expert at MediaWiki. John Lubbock (WMUK) (talk) 12:31, 2 April 2019 (BST)

Watchlist broken

Nothing is showing on my watchlist. In the box, there is the text:

Below are the last 0 changes in the last 720 hours, as of 30 November 2018, 12:26.

Under the box, it says

No changes during the given period match these criteria.

At Preferences, I have the following relevant settings:

  • Days to show in watchlist: 30
  • Maximum number of changes to show in watchlist: 250
  • Yes check.svgY Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent
  • X mark.svgN Hide minor edits from the watchlist
  • X mark.svgN Hide bot edits from the watchlist
  • X mark.svgN Hide my edits from the watchlist
  • X mark.svgN Hide edits by anonymous users from the watchlist
  • X mark.svgN Hide edits by logged in users from the watchlist

One of my watched pages is Events, which normally attracts at least one edit each week. But not even the last edit (which was at 12:23, 22 November 2018) is showing. Has there been a MediaWiki config change that would affect this? --Redrose64 (talk; at English Wikipedia) 12:28, 30 November 2018 (GMT)

Supplemental: I also have the setting
Yes check.svgY Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist
and I made sure that the "Watch this page" checkbox was ticked before I saved; but despite both of those, this page (Engine room) was not added to Special:EditWatchlist after I saved the above post. Nor was Water cooler added after I made this edit. This suggests that there seems to be a wider problem. The "watch" star works, but it's an extra step that I don't need to make on other wikis. --Redrose64 (talk; at English Wikipedia) 12:44, 30 November 2018 (GMT)
I think this relates to the Recent Changes not working, which led to my query aboce. Leutha (talk) 12:48, 30 November 2018 (GMT)
I'm seeing exactly the same issue with both watchlists and recent changes. I'll ping the mailing list as that gets a bit more traffic these days. Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 12:51, 30 November 2018 (GMT)
Hi Chris, I'll try to forward this issue on, but it is possible that it is part of the same problem we are having with a lot of our sites at the moment. I'll try to keep you informed when i hear what the problem is.John Lubbock (WMUK) (talk) 16:14, 30 November 2018 (GMT)

Any progress to report on this? TheOverflow (talk) 06:21, 22 July 2019 (BST)

I thought I would check recent changes by adding this edit . . . Leutha (talk) 07:34, 19 October 2019 (BST)
. . . and then seeing if the edit comes up – which it does not, so I think we are left with the old adage of Good Editor Schweik] "beg to report there is noting to report". Leutha (talk) 07:47, 19 October 2019 (BST)
That this has been outstanding for more than a year doesn't reflect well on the charity: most people would expect Wikimedia UK to be able to make its own wiki work... but I suppose that's not a priority any more. TheOverflow (talk) 09:05, 29 December 2019 (GMT)

Recent changes to MediaWiki namespace files

Hi all - just a courtesy message letting you know I've made some changes to a couple of MediaWiki namespace files (namely MediaWiki:Common.js). These changes affect all users, and were implemented solely due to function depreciation. Please let me know (preferably on my English Wikipedia talk page) if there are any issues ~TNT (she/her • talk) 14:58, 5 October 2021 (BST)

Installed versions of MediaWiki and PHP are end-of-life

The currently installed version of MediaWiki (1.31) went EOL on the 30th September 2021 - we should urgently upgrade to the latest LTS version (1.35), and ideally to the latest stable version (1.36).

We will also need to upgrade to PHP version 7.3.19 or higher, as our currently installed version (7.2.30) is not supported (and is also EOL).

Have we previously reached out to the Wikimedia Foundation, as I am certain they would happily host this MediaWiki installation? ~TheresNoTime (to explain!) 14:40, 1 November 2021 (GMT)

Spam

Hi, yesterday I stumbled upon a site (off-wiki) that had a spam link pointing to a page of this wiki. Having had a closer look I fell off my chair and added wikimedia.org.uk to my list of spam servers as it is highly contaminated. The account creating rate by spambots has increased here to about 1000 per day. The rate of spam page creations (or edits) is the same. I happen to be the one who is holding the high score of blocks on the Commons and thought about offering some help cleaning up this crap but it's impossible. Deleting or at least tagging tens of thousands of pages and accounts while continuously new ones are created is a joke. One could seriously consider to shut down this wiki. If not, following had to be done ASAP

  1. Restrict the account generation either by adding a captcha on creation or even by using a closed user group (acc creation disabled by default)
  2. Get the SBLs running. As I just checked on my tp neither the local nor the global SBL are in effect. And I didn't find a SBL log.
  3. A publicly accessible wiki like this one should not be run without any abuse filter, there seems to be no Special:AbuseLog.

Pinging Sam, Richard and Mike. Regards, Achim55 (talk) 11:59, 12 August 2022 (BST)

Good suggestions, recently raised on https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EZSPL7QGSVFUCPTBFKRPR4DVZAW3WYDM/ ~TheresNoTime (to explain!) 20:46, 13 August 2022 (BST)
Just noting I've created Spam TheresNoTime (talk) 19:13, 15 August 2022 (BST)
Sysop action wanted → User:Achim55/Spam. Cheers, Achim55 (talk) 09:44, 10 August 2023 (BST)